Panel: Entry Points into Tech

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Marvin Jake Espino 5:00 PM
Hello everyone!
Hope everyone is having a good day today :)
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Annette Chan 5:00 PM
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Joseph Mukanda 5:00 PM
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Jackie Wu 5:00 PM
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Nicole Shellito 5:00 PM
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David Chase 5:00 PM
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Teresa Sung 5:00 PM
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Emma de la Cruz 5:00 PM
Bay Area‼️
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Natalya Sanchez 5:03 PM
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Migo Hizon 5:07 PM
What are some examples where applicants “Stood out” to you amidst the hundreds of applications?
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Ed Snook 5:09 PM
now
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Monica Isabel Reyes 5:11 PM
So sorry for being late! My lab ran over the 5pm ending time
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Jackie Wu 5:11 PM
So many funnels in tech 😂
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Fatemeh (Fah-duh-may) 5:11 PM
now is better, but when is too late?
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aside from it closing, lol
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David Chase 5:12 PM
@Brian Gossler @Ed Snook @Dean Talanehzar
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Brian Gossler 5:12 PM
Never too late. If you’re interested apply!!!
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David Chase 5:14 PM
Skills: Fun at Parties
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Ed Snook 5:16 PM
If the role has clearly been open for a long time, generally it’s because of one of the following reasons:

Company is always hiring this role (potentially b/c of high turnover
Company is struggling to hire someone into the role
Company isn’t actually hiring for this role
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Benjamin Brentnall 5:16 PM
For cover letters I've always heard that you should only attach it if the application requires it
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Ed Snook 5:17 PM
With that in mind…if the role is still open and it’s an opportunity you are genuinely interested in, by all means go for it and just apply
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Virginia Corbo 5:17 PM
Good tip!
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Ed Snook 5:17 PM
We touched on this a bit a minute ago with how to make your resume stand out. I would add…how you communicate with anyone associated with the role (the recruiter, the hiring manager, etc.)
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Abbi Kim 5:18 PM
from what i know, the cover letter should elaborate why your skills/experiences makes you a good fit, and give a little bit of your personality/who you are
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Ed Snook 5:19 PM
@Dean Talanehzar excellent point on location

Plus, every person on this call needs to understand what environment they work best in: remote, hybrid, or fully in person
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Fatemeh (Fah-duh-may) 5:19 PM
grabbing popcorn FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!
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Migo Hizon 5:20 PM
Hi Ed! Thank you for answering my question! So would I add a note under my resume saying that I have reached out to people who are associated with the role?
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Amelia Chase 5:20 PM
Great question !! I have been super interested about this
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Nicole Shellito 5:21 PM
How do companies determine which keywords to pick up on within resumes and what should applicants do to figure out how to adjust their experience to encompass what those keywords are/are about?
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Marcus Fong 5:21 PM
imo ai should refine, not replace (have it find powerful or relevant words or tailor what u already have, but i dont think it should be used to generate entire bullet points or sections)
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Ed Snook 5:22 PM
Not on the resume itself, sorry if I wasn’t clear.

Well done resume that stands out plus the candidate reaches out to someone on the hiring team and is able to hold a conversation with that person / those persons
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Dean Talanehzar 5:23 PM
All the keywords are in the job description. 🙂 The JD is a map to what is most important to the hiring manager.
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Migo Hizon 5:24 PM
Thank you so much!
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Tite Divava 5:25 PM
I’m curious, where do most successful hires actually come from these days? Is it mostly referrals, direct applications, or recruiter outreach?

And when someone gets referred internally, does that usually move them further in the process or just help get their resume looked at?
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Nicole Shellito 5:25 PM
Is verbiage within the skill requirements portion where most of those keywords are in the JD?
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Dean Talanehzar 5:27 PM
Yes, correct.
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Annette Chan 5:27 PM
What is the best approach to contact a recruiter for a role I’m interested in? Is it better to reach out before applying or after? And If everybody else is reaching out, how can I be unique?
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Nicole Shellito 5:28 PM
Awesome, thank you!!
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Ed Snook 5:28 PM
Referrals definitely help, it helps keep you top of mind / helps you get through the funnel faster
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Ed Snook 5:28 PM
@Brian Gossler is answering this as I type this!
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Fatemeh (Fah-duh-may) 5:28 PM
How can you find recruiters to reach out to for particular roles you're interested in? Like if you were doing a dedicated LinkedIn trawl
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Fatemeh (Fah-duh-may) 5:29 PM
and you started from 0 clue with who to start
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Benjamin Brentnall 5:29 PM
For my SCU peeps, Jobscan essentially does that exact function if you haven't used it (shamless Career Center Plug)
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Joshua 5:29 PM
I found methods from LinkedIn, you go to "Search Bar" type : "hiring" "marketing coordinator". something like this. Hope this helps
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Lauren Townsend 5:30 PM
Jobscan has been my best friend lately
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Marcus Fong 5:30 PM
“ (company name) + Talent Acquisition, Univeristy Relations, University Recruiter, Early Careers, Emerging Talent Recruiter, Campus Recruiter, Early Talent Partner”
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Brian Gossler 5:31 PM
Company name AND recruiter OR talent

Put the above in the search bar and you should get some results.

Alternatively, you can go to the company LI page, go to People, and search for people in HR, and then you should find some people involved with talent acquisition.
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Ed Snook 5:31 PM
Using LI you should be able to find one or more recruiters at whatever company you’re applying to. From there, generally you can find out what type of roles each recruiter is hiring for (example: “GTM recruiter)…

Or sometimes “campus recruiter” is the person you’re looking for
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Fatemeh (Fah-duh-may) 5:32 PM
thank you all!
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David Chase 5:33 PM
I didn’t tell Dean to say that…but shout out to yesterday
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Ed Snook 5:33 PM
On this topic: Ideally you should be able the three-part question “why this industry, why this company, and why this role?”
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Tite Divava 5:34 PM
Thank you @Ed Snook , just to follow up, what makes a referral actually effective? Is it simply submitting the referral, or does it matter how well the employee knows the candidate?
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Marcus Fong 5:35 PM
@Tite Divava both. many referrals require the employee to submit some kind of blurb or tidbit as to why they personally think the candidate is a good fit, but even if the referral doesnt require a blurb, the employee should, to some degree, be able to argue/fight for you
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Ed Snook 5:36 PM
Ideally you want someone who is going to advocate for you at the company you’re applying at. So yes, it matters for sure. Just submitting the referral isn’t always enough. And I agree with you @Marcus Fong !
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Amelia Chase 5:37 PM
I did go into a place I was interested in near my campus, and they asked for an interview and I am currently working there!! So I do think in some cases it can work (it is a very small company)
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Tite Divava 5:38 PM
Thank you guys!!
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Marcus Fong 5:38 PM
also the employee’s job function/title, and its relation to what you’re applying to, does matter. even if my best friend was a SWE manager at apple, their referral doesn’t mean much if im applying to the Finance intern program. if youre out for a referral, find someone who can speak your language
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Marcus Fong 5:42 PM
i think if youre getting into pe/vc/ib, start with campus organizations, programs, competitions, network with your campus faculty, and leverage those networks and experiences to get into an internship
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Katherine Carter 5:45 PM
Maybe this question has already been answered, but how do you connect with a hiring manager or a recruiter outside of doing an application? What's the way to get your 'in' and get seen by a person, and then proceed to apply once you've been 'noticed'? Kind of goes along with Natalya's question
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Natalya Sanchez 5:45 PM
thank you!
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Benjamin Brentnall 5:46 PM
There's probably better ideas out there but reaching out on LinkedIn isn't a bad place to start, the literal worst consequence is they just ignore you but people usually love to talk!
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Tite Divava 5:47 PM
Another way I’ve heard is to comment on a post they made or a comment they made on a different post. It’s public, but could catch their attention or make them curious about checking out your profile
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Ed Snook 5:48 PM
Figuring out who the hiring manager is can be difficult, for sure. Leverage referrals, make some inferences, and try to reach out to folks who you think might either be the hiring manager or, based on their role, might know the hiring manager
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Annette Chan 5:48 PM
How far in an interview do you internally decide if “this is the candidate”?
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Benjamin Brentnall 5:50 PM
If you make a mistake in the initial connection or during an interview and you realize after the fact, what ways can it be made up?
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Ed Snook 5:50 PM
Just call it out and nip it in the bud early
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Katherine Carter 5:51 PM
Thank you, I appreciate it 😊
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Camryn Gardner 5:51 PM
Calling out the mistake also shows willingness to be human and that you care. How you respond is more important than the mistake (:
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Nick Miley 5:51 PM
Idk if this is a great question but during interview how do you feel about asking the interviewer how you are doing, or like potential reason that might not be the best fit for the job so you have a chance to address their concerns/ get some feedback
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Benjamin Brentnall 5:52 PM
I unfortunately have to leave early (it's for an interview!) but thank you so much Dean, Brian, and Ed, these points are going to stay with me!
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Brian Gossler 5:52 PM
Good luck!!!
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David Chase 5:52 PM
Go ben!!
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Katherine Carter 5:53 PM
The other concern that I get is "wasting" a referral, applying for something with a referral even if I don't find myself 100% qualified. Is there such thing as wasting the referral? Or getting a connection but you don't end up getting that interview/application in?
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Ed Snook 5:53 PM
I think it’s totally fair to ask this question…sparingly
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David Chase 5:54 PM
I personally don’t think this is as good as the hesitations / concerns question at the end?
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Nick Miley 5:55 PM
My thought was asking in the middle is so you kinda have a chance to course correct, but also good way to ask it
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Katherine Carter 5:55 PM
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Dean Talanehzar 5:55 PM
No one is 100% qualified. Most hiring managers write wish lists. 🙂
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Katherine Carter 5:55 PM
David that was exactly what I was thinking but didn't want to bring it up
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Ed Snook 5:56 PM
I would look at the job description. The first 4-5 are important, the rest are all nice to have (and therefore aren’t strictly required)
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Jackie Wu 5:57 PM
I applied for a job that said 5-8 yrs of experience, I had 1.5, and I got the job 🤷‍♀️
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Ed Snook 5:57 PM
amazing
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Lucy Sun 5:58 PM
speaking on the topic...do new grads have room to negotiate?!
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Nick Miley 5:59 PM
Was just about to ask the best way to negotiate
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Ed Snook 5:59 PM
Some....but honestly less than more senior roles
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Ed Snook 6:00 PM
@Dean Talanehzar is right, esp. for companies with well established new grad programs
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Tite Divava 6:01 PM
my brother negociated his and bumped his sign-on bonus 15-20% but that was back in 2022. they had room to increase just started him super low to see if he would take it
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Ed Snook 6:01 PM
Ask for a sign on / relocation if they won’t budge on base salary
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Dean Talanehzar 6:01 PM
We are totally open to relocation
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Jackie Wu 6:01 PM
If you need to jump off, you can since we’re over time!
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Katherine Carter 6:02 PM
unfortunately I cannot make it tomorrow 😔 have so much fun learning Claude
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Emma de la Cruz 6:02 PM
Thank you Dean, Ed, and Brian! This was super helpful.
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Vanessa Rodriguez 6:02 PM
Thank for such great advice!
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Annette Chan 6:02 PM
Thank you Ed, Brian, and Dean this is very valuable info
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Kingsten Cambra 6:02 PM
Thank you very much for your insight!
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Fatemeh (Fah-duh-may) 6:02 PM
gotta go to another meeting! thank you Ed, Brian, and Dean!!
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Lauren Townsend 6:02 PM
thank you all so much for everything!
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Marvin Jake Espino 6:02 PM
Thank you for your time today guys!
Such good information learned from this session! :)
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Thao Nguyen 6:03 PM
Thank you for your time and insight
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Dinara 6:03 PM
Thank you!!!
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Teresa Sung 6:03 PM
so informative - thanks brian, ed, dean!!
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Abbi Kim 6:03 PM
thank you!!!
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Justin Fan 6:03 PM
thank you panelists for all your insights!
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Camryn Gardner 6:03 PM
Incredible, thank you so much!
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Katherine Carter 6:03 PM
thank you so much everybody!
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Monica Isabel Reyes 6:03 PM
Thank you so much!
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Isaac Garcia-Velasquez 6:03 PM
Thank you!!
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FarrahSophia Tran 6:03 PM
Thank you!!