Business Models in Tech

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Naomi Wiesen 6:00 PM
dont let my professors know, im supposed to be in California right now
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:00 PM
In secret
DC
David Chase 6:01 PM
Yo I’m honestly hungry too
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:01 PM
I eat before like a panicked chipmunk
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NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:02 PM
Benefits of it being 9pm here is that I had half a pizza before this
JW
Jackie Wu 6:02 PM
Spent my 3 min break eating lol
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:02 PM
Speedrun any%
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Tevin Rose 6:02 PM
same
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CL
Corbin LeRahl 6:02 PM
Now your just making me hungry😭
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:03 PM
Cream of the crop from all the potential nominees ✨
6:03 PM
The memes always kill me lol
6:06 PM
Question (that I can ask later as well): Is it possible to be a large potential energy investment and still be hired? Especially if you ask a lot of questions in the interview and potentially be seen as "high-maintenance"?
DC
David Chase 6:07 PM
Questions are never β€œinterruptive” in Possible!
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Naomi Wiesen 6:09 PM
I can see how for people that are neurodivergent or have certain ways of working in teams could come across as needing more maintenance from an accomodations or communication standpoint
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:10 PM
Yes, that is far more my point. The kind of intuitive "why is this person's questions so weird" = high maintenance, etc.
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:10 PM
You get me
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:10 PM
Thank you, Ray and David! I know that so much of communication is charisma-based, and selling yourself is key in the interview process.
DC
David Chase 6:11 PM
Who was listening to me lol
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:11 PM
a company that was tech
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:11 PM
Software developers I am pretty sure
CH
Chris Hoang 6:11 PM
software first
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Vy Pham 6:11 PM
a company that puts software first
HD
Hudson Duff 6:11 PM
Software first
JD
John Ding 6:11 PM
A company whose product is mainly software based
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andrewcheng 6:11 PM
Software first
CL
Corbin LeRahl 6:11 PM
software
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Benediktus Albert 6:11 PM
software
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Jerry 6:11 PM
software
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Naomi Wiesen 6:12 PM
super awesome apple sauce?
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John Ding 6:12 PM
Software as a service
AO
Adam Ong 6:12 PM
software as a service
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Benediktus Albert 6:12 PM
software as a service
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andrewcheng 6:12 PM
Software as a service
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:12 PM
i prefer super awesome apple sauce
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Apple IOS
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andrewcheng 6:12 PM
Netflix
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:14 PM
youtube premium
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:14 PM
Spotify
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Everything forever
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Returning customers
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Consistency
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No ownership
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Naomi Wiesen 6:15 PM
with rocket money you could save--
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andrewcheng 6:15 PM
Which is a big contrevsail debate
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:15 PM
#capitalism 😣
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JW
Jackie Wu 6:15 PM
RIP Circuit City
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NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:16 PM
Reminds me of Ubisoft(?) when they opened up the subscription based gaming service and said something about "people need to get used to not owning their own games"
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JW
Jackie Wu 6:16 PM
It’s cool, we’re old
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andrewcheng 6:16 PM
You will own nothing and be happy
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2030
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Jeremy Diaz 6:16 PM
I just dunked on capitalism in my ethical reasoning course for subscriptions
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andrewcheng 6:16 PM
That’s why IT skills are so important and understanding the backend
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Hannah Hoeptner 6:17 PM
API integration
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Jeremy Diaz 6:17 PM
Prooofittt
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Corbin LeRahl 6:17 PM
Profit
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Carter Welch 6:17 PM
Infinitely scalable
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andrewcheng 6:17 PM
But that power can also be abused to
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:17 PM
Also much easier to enter into those fields or software because its "accessible"
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:17 PM
It's why so many people do the "spotify wrap up" model now
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andrewcheng 6:17 PM
Like what Netflix is doing 20 buckers per month
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Sri 6:17 PM
SaaS contributes to GDP..economic growth
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Chris Hoang 6:18 PM
low cogs
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andrewcheng 6:18 PM
Hopefully they go crash but that will burn US economy
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30,000 dollahair mortgages here we come /s
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JW
Jackie Wu 6:20 PM
I actually have a non-subscription Microsoft Office license πŸ˜„
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:20 PM
Maybe Clip Studio Art? It's a one-time license
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NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:20 PM
I think procreate is similar in that vein
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HH
Hannah Hoeptner 6:20 PM
Uber or airbnb - more transaction based than Saas
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:21 PM
Clip Studio Paint*
DC
David Chase 6:21 PM
Nice find.
JW
Jackie Wu 6:21 PM
Similarly, some other phone/iPad apps that have a β€œlifetime” subscription/purchase tier
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andrewcheng 6:22 PM
Apple ecosystem so hard to break
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Jeremy Diaz 6:22 PM
Release me apple
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andrewcheng 6:22 PM
You kinda have to get a new phone # to get a new phone iMessage is evil
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NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:23 PM
When in doubt use google voice (not sponsored... mostly)
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andrewcheng 6:24 PM
Eh its not integrated lol
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andrewcheng 6:24 PM
But whatever its a small to big price to pay
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andrewcheng 6:25 PM
B2B can be referenced as TSMC
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And its a single point of failure
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:31 PM
flashback to the good ol days with the rental stations
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:31 PM
I remember when they mailed the movies to you dawg
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They also don't allow free trials
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:32 PM
greedy little goblins
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:32 PM
I need you to be my friend and my luck would have it that you attend SCU. Do you??
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Naomi Wiesen 6:32 PM
Perchance
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:32 PM
Alas
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Jeremy Diaz 6:33 PM
I'm SU. I fear we will have a rivalry now or something
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:33 PM
My dad is from seattle and I still have family there if that helps
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Hannah Hoeptner 6:33 PM
Original content too - new advertisement almost every month or every other
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:33 PM
We'll meet one day
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Jackie Wu 6:34 PM
Hand raise feature is within the React button :)
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Churn = returns/ cancellations
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andrewcheng 6:35 PM
And not good for shareholders
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Jeremy Diaz 6:35 PM
I'm thinking
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Naomi Wiesen 6:36 PM
My cough is acting up but I feel like the monthly-only indicates some form of instability within the company's business model which could be called out(?)
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:37 PM
Q: What are the trends and/or analyses that Netflix are looking at while you are only focusing on monthly subscriptions in order to keep up to date with what the market wants and demands?
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Naomi Wiesen 6:37 PM
Shows that people don't want to commit
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Jeremy Diaz 6:37 PM
You are scared of going BROKE
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Tevin Rose 6:38 PM
Is it so they can raise prices without worrying about the money lost for those annual contract s
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Jeremy Diaz 6:39 PM
That's such a good point
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:41 PM
my conspiracy theory has been debunked
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David Chase 6:43 PM
@Hannah Hoeptner wrote about original shows.

I’ve noticed that you have invested more in original shows vs. movies. I’m curious if this is because it helps with monthly retention as people wait for new seasons?
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:45 PM
"free" mobile games love their transaction strategy
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:45 PM
TikTok is for attention, vs Genshin Impact (video game) is more transaction
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Attention
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Adam Ong 6:46 PM
attention
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Vy Pham 6:46 PM
attention
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Maya Faintuch 6:46 PM
Attention
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Bradley Kemp 6:46 PM
Attention
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Hudson Duff 6:46 PM
attention
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Katrina Tan 6:46 PM
ateention
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Naomi Wiesen 6:46 PM
attention
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Daniel Bartz 6:46 PM
Attention
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Tevin Rose 6:46 PM
attention
JC
Josline Contajioso 6:46 PM
attention
NC
Nelly Calderon 6:46 PM
attention
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Kenneth Kang 6:46 PM
Attention
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Takeshi Tanaka 6:46 PM
attention
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Sri 6:46 PM
attention
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Maya Faintuch 6:47 PM
transaction
HD
Hudson Duff 6:47 PM
Transaction
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Daniel Bartz 6:47 PM
Transaction
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Kenneth Kang 6:47 PM
Transaction
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Sri 6:47 PM
transaction
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Takeshi Tanaka 6:47 PM
transaction
BK
Bradley Kemp 6:47 PM
Transaction
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Lawrence Hu 6:47 PM
Transaction
JK
Jasleen Kindra 6:47 PM
transactiono
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Tevin Rose 6:47 PM
Transaction
JC
Josline Contajioso 6:47 PM
transaction
NC
Nelly Calderon 6:47 PM
transaction
VP
Vy Pham 6:47 PM
transaction
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Maya Whitted 6:47 PM
Transaction
JC
Josline Contajioso 6:47 PM
productivity
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Diego Silva 6:47 PM
productivity
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Jeremy Diaz 6:47 PM
Productivity
CL
Corbin LeRahl 6:47 PM
productivity
JK
Jasleen Kindra 6:47 PM
productivity
MF
Maya Faintuch 6:47 PM
Productivity
LH
Lawrence Hu 6:47 PM
Productivity
HD
Hudson Duff 6:47 PM
Productivity
VP
Vy Pham 6:47 PM
productivity
DB
Daniel Bartz 6:47 PM
Productivity
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Naomi Wiesen 6:47 PM
could it be productivity
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Takeshi Tanaka 6:47 PM
productivity
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Jerry 6:47 PM
productivity
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Tali Tamaki 6:47 PM
Productivity
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Sri 6:47 PM
productivity
JI
Jasmine Ito 6:47 PM
productivity
KK
Kenneth Kang 6:47 PM
Productivity
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Corbin LeRahl 6:47 PM
transactions
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Maya Faintuch 6:47 PM
transaction
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Jerry 6:47 PM
transacton
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Bradley Kemp 6:47 PM
Transaction
HD
Hudson Duff 6:47 PM
Transactions
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Diego Silva 6:47 PM
transaction
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Lawrence Hu 6:47 PM
Transaction
JC
Josline Contajioso 6:47 PM
transaction
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Takeshi Tanaka 6:47 PM
transaction
JK
Jasleen Kindra 6:47 PM
transaction
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Kenneth Kang 6:47 PM
Transaction
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Vy Pham 6:47 PM
transaction
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Tali Tamaki 6:47 PM
transaction
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Maya Whitted 6:47 PM
Transaction
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andrewcheng 6:47 PM
Transaction
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Naomi Wiesen 6:47 PM
i live under a rock and don't know some of these
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Tevin Rose 6:47 PM
Production
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Takeshi Tanaka 6:47 PM
productivity
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John Ding 6:47 PM
productivity
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Maya Faintuch 6:47 PM
Productivity
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Nelly Calderon 6:47 PM
productivity
JK
Jasleen Kindra 6:47 PM
productivity
LH
Lawrence Hu 6:47 PM
Productivity
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Katrina Tan 6:47 PM
productivity
JI
Jasmine Ito 6:47 PM
productivity
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Sri 6:47 PM
productivity
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Vy Pham 6:47 PM
productivity
BK
Bradley Kemp 6:47 PM
Productivity
MW
Maya Whitted 6:47 PM
Productivity
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Naomi Wiesen 6:48 PM
witchcraft?
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Jeremy Diaz 6:48 PM
Democracy says it's productivity
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Le gasp
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Tevin Rose 6:48 PM
I led everyone wrong
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My bad
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Jeremy Diaz 6:48 PM
Typical American
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David Chase 6:48 PM
Everyone here had a choice!!
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Naomi Wiesen 6:49 PM
choice is an illusion
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Hannah Hoeptner 6:49 PM
How does strategic scaling work into this, like Netflix’s original deal to acquire Warner Bros before Paramount buying them out?
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Jeremy Diaz 6:49 PM
Truly spoken like a seagull. I know it's a duck. But seagull core
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David Chase 6:49 PM
For the game or for Netflix’s strategy?
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Takeshi Tanaka 6:50 PM
transaction
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Corbin LeRahl 6:50 PM
transaction
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Bradley Kemp 6:50 PM
Transaction
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Jeremy Diaz 6:50 PM
Attention
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Daniel Bartz 6:50 PM
Transaction
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Lydia Mekonnen 6:50 PM
trasasction
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Benediktus Albert 6:50 PM
transaction
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Adam Ong 6:50 PM
transaction
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Tali Tamaki 6:50 PM
attention
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Maya Whitted 6:50 PM
Attention
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Naomi Wiesen 6:50 PM
a little attention
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Jerry 6:50 PM
attention
LH
Lawrence Hu 6:50 PM
Attention
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Nelly Calderon 6:50 PM
attention
JK
Jasleen Kindra 6:50 PM
attention
JI
Jasmine Ito 6:50 PM
attention
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Kenneth Kang 6:50 PM
Transaction & attention
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andrewcheng 6:50 PM
attention
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Naomi Wiesen 6:50 PM
if you consider xbox gamepass
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Jeremy Diaz 6:50 PM
Productivity
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Adam Ong 6:51 PM
productivity
TT
Takeshi Tanaka 6:51 PM
productivity
CL
Corbin LeRahl 6:51 PM
productivity
KK
Kenneth Kang 6:51 PM
Productivity
TT
Tali Tamaki 6:51 PM
productivity
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Vy Pham 6:51 PM
productivity
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Jeremy Diaz 6:51 PM
Attention
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Kenneth Kang 6:51 PM
Attention
BK
Bradley Kemp 6:51 PM
Attention
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Johan Kou 6:51 PM
Attention
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Adam Ong 6:51 PM
attention
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Jasmine Ito 6:51 PM
attention
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Vy Pham 6:51 PM
attention
TT
Tali Tamaki 6:51 PM
Attention
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Takeshi Tanaka 6:51 PM
attention
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Naomi Wiesen 6:51 PM
attention
JK
Jasleen Kindra 6:51 PM
attention
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Lawrence Hu 6:51 PM
Attention
CL
Corbin LeRahl 6:51 PM
attention
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Nelly Calderon 6:51 PM
attention
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mabdikadir@seattleu.edu 6:51 PM
Attention
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Naomi Wiesen 6:51 PM
Charlie puth style
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Jeremy Diaz 6:51 PM
the word attention is no longer a word
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Hannah Hoeptner 6:51 PM
Was it to capitalize under Attention? increase the # of subscription models
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Jeremy Diaz 6:51 PM
Productivity
BK
Bradley Kemp 6:51 PM
Productivity
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Naomi Wiesen 6:51 PM
they are enemies
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Carter Welch 6:51 PM
transaction
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Vy Pham 6:51 PM
productivity
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Takeshi Tanaka 6:51 PM
attention
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mabdikadir@seattleu.edu 6:51 PM
Productivity
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Lydia Mekonnen 6:51 PM
attention
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Lawrence Hu 6:52 PM
Transaction
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Diego Silva 6:52 PM
transaction
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Benediktus Albert 6:52 PM
productivity
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Jerry 6:52 PM
productivity
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Kenneth Kang 6:52 PM
Transaction
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Jeremy Diaz 6:52 PM
they are enemies has me dying
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Naomi Wiesen 6:52 PM
productivity
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Tevin Rose 6:52 PM
Transaction
NW
Naomi Wiesen 6:52 PM
yes they offer yearly
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Jeremy Diaz 6:52 PM
Productivity because they need you to grow their LLM database
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Naomi Wiesen 6:52 PM
its violently expensive but claude and gemini (and maybe gpt) offer one-year plans
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Jeremy Diaz 6:53 PM
I like that Claude argues with you
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Naomi Wiesen 6:53 PM
its like drugs
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JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:54 PM
Being argued with something that chugs fresh water by the bottle is like the most hydrated nerd ever
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Johan Kou 6:54 PM
Sora is a good example: attention, just to get people talking
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andrewcheng 6:54 PM
I do
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Hudson Duff 6:54 PM
Live stream selling
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Tevin Rose 6:54 PM
Reselling right?
KK
Kenneth Kang 6:54 PM
Transaction and attention
JD
Jeremy Diaz 6:55 PM
I'm gonna name it Paul-sible
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Naomi Wiesen 6:56 PM
so its a stalker bot (but professional)
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Jeremy Diaz 6:57 PM
A girl in my class said that she worked under a manager who checked people's social media and hired or rejected people based on their HOBBIES.
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Mohamed Abdikadir 6:59 PM
Drop the link in the chat..
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David Chase 6:59 PM
ransition to consumption / cloud
I saw that A10 is evolving from more traditional hardware and perpetual licensing into subscription and even consumption-based models in cloud environments. How has that shift impacted how you think about product development priorities and customer success today, and where do you see the biggest challenges in scaling that model over the next few years?

2. Enterprise + service provider dynamics
Given that a large portion of A10’s revenue comes from service providers with long sales cycles, while enterprise customers may have different buying patterns, how do you balance building for these two segments without over-indexing on one at the expense of the other? How do you see that balance evolving as cloud and AI workloads grow?
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Naomi Wiesen 6:59 PM
I'm definitely going to jailbreak that thing
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Jeremy Diaz 6:59 PM
girl help me i'm trying not to laugh
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andrewcheng 6:59 PM
Thank you for all this information
MW
Maya Whitted 7:00 PM
Thank you!!
NW
Naomi Wiesen 7:00 PM
Thank you for all the businessy knowlege
KK
Kenneth Kang 7:00 PM
Thank you!
CL
Corbin LeRahl 7:00 PM
Thank you!
JK
Jasleen Kindra 7:00 PM
Thank you!!
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Vy Pham 7:00 PM
thank you
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Rigo Garcia 7:00 PM
Thank u