It’s week 3 for possible, week 5 for scu students on an academic schedule
6:04 PM
goblins?
JK
Johan Kou6:04 PM
People who make software work CORRECTLY
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:04 PM
Oh I thought you were asking us if any of US were software engineers
CW
Carter Welch6:04 PM
write the code for software
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:05 PM
People who innovate and create software from scratch
A
andrewcheng6:06 PM
Vibe coding is changing SE quite a bit
💯
6:08 PM
Programming brain
VP
Vy Pham6:08 PM
coding
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:08 PM
Debugging
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:08 PM
Ability to work with frustration
RG
Rigo Garcia6:08 PM
Attention to detail
JD
John Ding6:08 PM
Looking for simplicity
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:08 PM
Endless rubber ducks
CH
Chris Hoang6:08 PM
bug fixes
JC
Jonathan Chavez6:08 PM
Optimistic
S
Sri6:09 PM
creative solutions, resilient(like to sit through debug sessions)
A
andrewcheng6:09 PM
Embeded systems is a type of SE
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:11 PM
Anti duck agenda apparently
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:12 PM
In the ancient times you sacrifice one rubber duck for every software engineer that succeeds (probably)
😂 2
JK
Johan Kou6:12 PM
Understand scalability and value add, what will be novel about this approach
A
andrewcheng6:13 PM
Great UX with the slides btw
6:14 PM
Or UI I meant
🙌💯
CG
Christopher Grande6:17 PM
Thank you for saying Product Managers are fantastic, not all engineers have that perspective 😂
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:19 PM
Software and its users are always evolving
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:21 PM
designmaxxing
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:23 PM
To figure out bugs!
‼️
JK
Johan Kou6:23 PM
Save money and time
💙 2
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:23 PM
To see what happens
✨
VP
Vy Pham6:23 PM
to further develop the design or product
💙
BK
Bradley Kemp6:23 PM
See how it works
💙
JK
Johan Kou6:23 PM
Do it right the first time, so that the 2nd time never comes
➕
6:25 PM
Yep, cloudflare
CG
Christopher Grande6:29 PM
The Phoenix Project
👀
VP
Vy Pham6:30 PM
PM, marketing team
💯
MF
Maya Faintuch6:30 PM
Data analysts
💯
TG
Tanvi Gandhi6:30 PM
Probably product managers?
LH
Lawrence Hu6:30 PM
Product managers / product designers
HH
Hannah Hoeptner6:31 PM
UI/UX designers, devops
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:31 PM
Product managers I think too
JD
John Ding6:31 PM
Quality assurance? Or is that a part of the software engineer
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:31 PM
D:
HH
Hannah Hoeptner6:31 PM
Business analysts
1 reply
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:31 PM
D: is a face of DESPAIR
🚀
CG
Christopher Grande6:31 PM
Good one! I was a BA before becoming a PM. Very key role
❤️
JK
Johan Kou6:33 PM
You can use their written feedback to suggest/brainstorm code changes
JD
John Ding6:33 PM
I think it is replacing customer support, like in the form of chatbots within the website
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:34 PM
Someone's gotta have a hot take!
VP
Vy Pham6:34 PM
AI is replacing human engagement and customer relationships
➕
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:35 PM
There’s this cool video I watched the other day called “ai is eating itself” and it really highlights how we cannot go pure-ai because of data poisoning and such
➕👀 4⁉️
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:36 PM
Carefully. You approach carefully
❤️ 2
JK
Johan Kou6:36 PM
Understand what the constraints are, what’s reasonable to discuss
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:36 PM
Use food for bribe
2 replies
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:36 PM
Like the raptor Jurassic Park scene
😂
BE
Bryan Eddy6:36 PM
Yes please!
😂
BE
Bryan Eddy6:36 PM
Sushi and I’ll deliver anything you want
😂
VP
Vy Pham6:37 PM
approach with a broad mindset and effective communication
HH
Hannah Hoeptner6:37 PM
Learning their jargon to communicate with them/understand what their saying - being on the same playing field
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:37 PM
As an accounting (so operations/hr/logical problems) major I would probably just go to software engineers for purely technical questions to help make people understand
❤️
VP
Vy Pham6:38 PM
yeah same, as someone who is trying to pursue accounting, i would approach software engineers for help with IT, computerized systems, or something to do with data…
➕
1 reply
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:39 PM
Yep! I think there's a way for everyone to be involved with each other. There has to be people who are willing to be both glue and nomad lol and ask more questions to fill gaps.
‼️
CG
Christopher Grande6:39 PM
@Hannah Hoeptner great question building too by putting some research in first. Also, I’ll say from my experience, don’t be afraid to ask them questions to understand what they’re doing. That inherently builds strong relationships and shows curiosity.
👌
1 reply
HH
Hannah Hoeptner6:40 PM
Roger that!
MF
Maya Faintuch6:40 PM
My sister is a fraud software engineer at Netflix and she loves to ramble to me about her work and I ask her “what does that mean” almost every sentence. But on the bright side I’ve learned so much from her!
😂 2
1 reply
CG
Christopher Grande6:41 PM
Great approach!
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:41 PM
Kidnap them?
⁉️
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:41 PM
Teams message with a simple sentence question and then leaving them alone like a stray cat
🤣😼
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:42 PM
Generally engineers like concise, logical directions
CG
Christopher Grande6:44 PM
This is a GREAT slide. No one has captured it so well
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:48 PM
Authenticity and collaboration remains some of the most important aspects of work and professionalism
💙
CG
Christopher Grande6:49 PM
PRD = Product Requirements Document
👍 2
6:49 PM
Product Spec, Product Brief, etc all similar
NW
Naomi Wiesen6:50 PM
Favorite color?
CG
Christopher Grande6:51 PM
Learning to know what metrics are important and worth looking at is also a skill in itself
🙌 2
6:53 PM
DORA Metrics cover deployment frequency, lead time to changes (how long to get into production), Change failure rate (deploys that cause issues), and time to restore service when it goes down
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:53 PM
DORA?
5 replies
CG
Christopher Grande6:54 PM
DevOps Research and Assessment (DORA) program at Google Cloud
➕
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:54 PM
Thank you!
CG
Christopher Grande6:54 PM
It references the team that created it. Yeh I had to look up the initials. I had an idea of what it applied to
JD
Jeremy Diaz6:55 PM
Neat. Like "Goats" in Overwatch. Term etymology is pretty cool.